Dogma In Chaos: Lineup Changes Spark Fan Revolt
Something truly unholy went down in the world of Dogma this October. What started as a couple of postponed shows turned into a full-blown exorcism of half the band, with fans, nuns, and management all caught in the crossfire.
In other words: there’s a chaos in the convent ongoing and it is uglier than it seems… So what the hell happened? It’s October and it should have been the time for Dogma to shine again. But instead, all we got is chaos, turbulence and a lot of broken promises.
Ok, if you are ready, let’s rewind.
Dogma in Chaos
Dogma postponed two shows that triggered the chaos: Anaheim (October 23) and Reno (October 24). When the band resurfaced for the meet and greet in Anaheim, fans immediately noticed something was off. The signature nuns were there, but they were not the same. Lilith, Lamia, and Rusalka were gone. In their place stood new faces wearing the same black-and-white attire, but not quite fitting the holy image fans had grown used to.
A few days later, the show in Las Vegas (October 26) went ahead, but that only fueled the fire. Fans online claimed the band used backing tracks and even lip-synced parts of the set, speculating that the new recruits couldn’t learn the songs in time.
Then came the statement day, which was October 27, when Lilith, Lamia, and Rusalka finally broke their silence. Their joint post confirmed what fans feared: the trio was out of Dogma. In a joint statement posted on social media, the trio accused the band’s management of “unilateral decisions, broken promises, manipulation, mistreatment, and lies to the fans.” They also alleged that Dogma had become “a brand rather than a band.”
Hours later, the band’s management released an official statement of their own, trying to calm the storm and justify the new lineup. They responded with a carefully worded statement saying the project “was founded on creativity, collaboration, and evolution. Like any artistic project, change is part of our growth.”
They also reaffirmed that the upcoming U.S. tour would continue as planned, promising that “the DOGMA experience will remain as powerful as ever.”
The official stance made by the management was more than clear: Dogma is bigger than any individual. It’s an artistic concept that doesn’t have a fixed lineup. But for many fans, that explanation only added fuel to the fire and sounded vague as it usually does.
It’s worth noting that Nixie and Abrahel are still part of the lineup, standing alongside the new members, which makes the internal split even more interesting.
Dogma Fan Reaction: “Fans Deserve the Truth”
The reaction from DOGMA’s fanbase was overwhelmingly negative. Reddit’s r/WeAreDogma and r/DogmaBand threads were flooded with comments accusing the band and management of deception, lack of transparency, and disrespect toward the audience.
Some fans are sympathetic to the departing members’ statements and express support for those individuals. For example one Reddit commenter writes:
“While I understand their disappointment for being kicked out of a band … they need to understand that this was never their band.”
There’s also nostalgia for what many see as the “golden lineup” of the band (pre-October changes). From Reddit:
“For Me this is what I like to call ‘The Golden Line Up’ … the best Line Up… Sorry, but that’s the truth”
Some fans are actively calling for backing the dismissed members or moving support to their new projects rather than staying fully on board with Dogma’s current form.
Also, there are complaints about misleading tour/meet-&-greet situations:
“I booked my entire Thanksgiving vacation around the show … now it’s not the same band at all…. I don’t know wtf I’m gonna yet but I’m furious…😡”
However, from what we surveyed, the dominant fan sentiment is quite negative. Many fans feel the band is being turned into a “brand” with interchangeable members, rather than an authentic band with stable membership. From a statement by departed members
On Reddit:
“Fans make emotional connections … Each time they change a member I feel like a loss.”
“This is what a show from Dogma is meant to be … I have nothing against these potential new members, but … they’re just strangers to me.”
Many fans feel they were not told properly, or feel misled about who would be on stage, what they paid for (M&G, tickets) etc. From Reddit:
“Dogma was such an interesting project … now it’s an entirely different band lmao. What a fucking shitshow.”
“THE FANS DESERVE THE TRUTH … what’s being sold today is not Dogma.”
“I’m wondering if this new lineup will even be the same next year in 2026.”
“Honestly – What a … shitshow. Thank you guys for staying. Don’t let this asshole get away with this.”
“How about a way to get our money back on upcoming shows?” (in context of Meet & Greet / ticket mismatch)
Overall fan sentiment
From all the sources we gathered information from for this article, it’s quite clear that the majority of the fanbase see these changes as something completely negative, rather than an opportunity or anything positive.
- Approximately 70-80% of reactive fan comments in online forums/subreddits (especially dedicated ones) are negative or heavily critical of the changes and management.
- ~15-25% are neutral or cautious (“let’s see what happens”), and only a small minority are outright supportive (or at least unconcerned) about the shake-up.
- The key driver of that negative sentiment is not just the lineup change itself, but the perceived how and why: lack of transparency, fears the band is no longer genuine, and that fans’ investment (monetary and emotional) is being de-valued.
The Aftermath
Right now, Dogma’s management insists the band will “continue their divine mission” with the new members, and upcoming shows remain on schedule. But online, the debate rages on.
Whether this was a resurrection or a betrayal, one thing’s clear, Dogma’s October shake-up left its mark. The congregation has split, the altar’s cracked, and the band’s future now hangs somewhere between heaven and hell.
Whether the project can survive the loss of its charismatic frontwoman and two core guitarists is unclear. What’s certain is that Dogma has become one of the most polarizing case studies in the modern metal scene – a band wrestling with the thin line between artistic evolution and commercial branding.
P.S. The majority of the fan comments are taken from r/WeAreDogma subbredit. Since this is just an overview of the situation and review of the fan sentiment, stay tune for more.
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